ArkBird
09-15 05:18 PM
Dude,
show me one link where i can go back and change the language in the poll?
All of you are making it very hard for me to keep the decorum of this forum.
So much name calling.. nasty PMs.... All i can say is God Bless y'all
There is ancient Hebrew saying, which roughly goes like this:
“Before the word are spoken, man is master of his words but after they are spoken, he is their slave”
Something like this applies to your posting.
Again, nothing personal. My apologies if I have offended you.
show me one link where i can go back and change the language in the poll?
All of you are making it very hard for me to keep the decorum of this forum.
So much name calling.. nasty PMs.... All i can say is God Bless y'all
There is ancient Hebrew saying, which roughly goes like this:
“Before the word are spoken, man is master of his words but after they are spoken, he is their slave”
Something like this applies to your posting.
Again, nothing personal. My apologies if I have offended you.
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ashutrip
06-18 11:03 AM
Hope not, we never thought that this will be current so soon. so my gut feeling is that we all should be fine up until Sep end.
Good luck for you and all!
I am praying what u say is right!1111
Good luck for you and all!
I am praying what u say is right!1111
digital2k
05-13 02:34 PM
Don't wait any longer
Everyone must call
Thank You for helping Yourslef
Everyone must call
Thank You for helping Yourslef
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Pineapple
01-06 09:17 PM
If you have a cogent argument, you can present it. It will be judged by its merits.
Ad hominem arguments and irate calls to close the thread do not go a long way in proving your point (as much as I can make out there is one in the first place)
You seem to be a guy from north India who dislikes anything remotely connected to south, or probably you are envious of the strides that south India has taken, anyways I do not care what YOU or Wadhwa says about the quality of education in some parts of the world.
I do not know how this discussion is going to help our cause.
Moderators, please close this thread. This thread has potrayed India in bad light to the rest of the world and has given enough ammunition to anti immigrants.
Ad hominem arguments and irate calls to close the thread do not go a long way in proving your point (as much as I can make out there is one in the first place)
You seem to be a guy from north India who dislikes anything remotely connected to south, or probably you are envious of the strides that south India has taken, anyways I do not care what YOU or Wadhwa says about the quality of education in some parts of the world.
I do not know how this discussion is going to help our cause.
Moderators, please close this thread. This thread has potrayed India in bad light to the rest of the world and has given enough ammunition to anti immigrants.
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immi_seeker
10-01 05:46 PM
After the july fiasco, USCIS need not have to worry about recieving huge applications if they move the dates forward. Since almost all the folks (except for folks stuck at BEC) would have turned in the applications uscis should be able to move the dates forward for FY08 to a big extent , so that visa numbers are not wasted.
but again it all depends on how they view this.These are cry from our end..
but again it all depends on how they view this.These are cry from our end..
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09-09 03:12 PM
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Let us rock and roll in DC on Sep 18..
GO IV GO
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GO IV GO
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p1234
09-13 08:15 PM
I'm getting red dots now for believing in the right!
Who cares? Give all the red dots in the world...:D
Who cares? Give all the red dots in the world...:D
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new_horizon
05-04 12:41 PM
Called all Senators in Tier 1
Scott Brown - Will pass message. Initially confused with illegal immigration which the senator is against.
Judd Gregg - Will pass message
Richard Lugar - Supports high skilled provisions
Michael Enzi - Will pas message. Does not know the position.
Lindsey Graham - Left message
John Ensign - Senator opposes CIR. But will convey message re. our provisions.
Orin Hatch - Left message
John Cornyn - Will pass message. No position yet
John Kyl - Will pass message
Mitch Mcconnel - Will pass message. No position yet.
Amy Klobuchar - Will pass message. No position yet.
Claire McCaskill - Left message.
Jon Tester - Will pass message. No position yet.
Jim Webb - Will pass message. No position yet.
Sheldon Whitehouse - Will pass message. Reviewing the bill.
Scott Brown - Will pass message. Initially confused with illegal immigration which the senator is against.
Judd Gregg - Will pass message
Richard Lugar - Supports high skilled provisions
Michael Enzi - Will pas message. Does not know the position.
Lindsey Graham - Left message
John Ensign - Senator opposes CIR. But will convey message re. our provisions.
Orin Hatch - Left message
John Cornyn - Will pass message. No position yet
John Kyl - Will pass message
Mitch Mcconnel - Will pass message. No position yet.
Amy Klobuchar - Will pass message. No position yet.
Claire McCaskill - Left message.
Jon Tester - Will pass message. No position yet.
Jim Webb - Will pass message. No position yet.
Sheldon Whitehouse - Will pass message. Reviewing the bill.
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needhelp!
09-13 02:57 PM
Anyone can do this!
The AILA media link is great, easy to do. Just type in your zip code and you will get a list of all news papers/radio stations/TV stations in your area.
Just personalize the email and submit submit submit
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Just personalize the email and submit submit submit
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Duc1
05-20 06:14 PM
I just came across this thread. Is this campaign still on?
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chanduy9
07-06 10:26 AM
Please don't post any damageing statments..it may reverse fire on us..dont bash them...
Send them lovely flowers for all the greate and good work they did. I am sure they will get to know what they did and how much pain we are taking..We cant achive any thing hurting some one....
JUST SEND FLOWERS IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERY THING!!!
FLOWER DAY!!! JULY 10TH.
just my 2 cents..
Thanks,
Chandra.
Send them lovely flowers for all the greate and good work they did. I am sure they will get to know what they did and how much pain we are taking..We cant achive any thing hurting some one....
JUST SEND FLOWERS IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERY THING!!!
FLOWER DAY!!! JULY 10TH.
just my 2 cents..
Thanks,
Chandra.
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Green.Tech
06-22 10:57 AM
Bump.
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QuestGC
01-06 08:30 AM
A small but important correction in the above quote. Indian education is not a gift of the Brits. As a matter of fact history of eduction in India dates back to its cultural heritage. Nalanda university is considered to be the worlds first university. Correct me if I am wrong.
Yes. Nalanda Univerisyt is one of the oldest. If you consider the 80% of education system we follow, they are all gifted by brts.
Ex: English... the way we speak and use the language is like brit.
Irony,,, Nalanda University is being revamped (I think structure wise) by Japan government.
Yes. Nalanda Univerisyt is one of the oldest. If you consider the 80% of education system we follow, they are all gifted by brts.
Ex: English... the way we speak and use the language is like brit.
Irony,,, Nalanda University is being revamped (I think structure wise) by Japan government.
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Milind123
09-17 08:44 AM
Folks, we just need 5 more people. My shot is guaranteed. Do you want to fire the next shot to encourage the last four people?
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pappu
07-18 11:59 AM
IV action alert $50 per month recurring contribution drive.
Dear IV members,
IV has had its first big success this year and we should all be proud of what we can all do. We worked hard and left no stone unturned to get this relief for our members. During the last few days there has been some movement on the National Defense Authorization Act and work on DREAM and SKIL provisions. While we were fully focused on the 485 relief, we did not lose sight of the developments. We have built a positive momentum and have been getting positive signals from key lawmakers. It is now upto us how we can seize the opportunity and focus on the lobbying efforts on legislative front. After seeing the overwhelming support of our members we are also encouraged to move ahead with full steam and explore the possibility of our provisions in the upcoming legislative activities. We also need to explore any other future movement on legislative front. Please join us in this struggle by signing up for $50 or more per month recurring contributions. This minimum amount is important for us to accomplish the kind of results we all desire. The failure of CIR and the political climate against immigration are making the task difficult but not impossible.
Monthly $50 sign ups will enable us to have a better idea on the funds for the coming months and we can plan our efforts better.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
Thanks again for your continued support.
IV team
P.S. After our success with the visa bulletin, our opponents, other organizations and people in DC know that IV has arrived. Congrats everyone.
=========================
" Kapoor says he has spent about $64,000 of his own money in the last 19 months, largely on travel to and from Washington."
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
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Message from Pappu:
Yes this is not a typo. This is true. Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
Dear IV members,
IV has had its first big success this year and we should all be proud of what we can all do. We worked hard and left no stone unturned to get this relief for our members. During the last few days there has been some movement on the National Defense Authorization Act and work on DREAM and SKIL provisions. While we were fully focused on the 485 relief, we did not lose sight of the developments. We have built a positive momentum and have been getting positive signals from key lawmakers. It is now upto us how we can seize the opportunity and focus on the lobbying efforts on legislative front. After seeing the overwhelming support of our members we are also encouraged to move ahead with full steam and explore the possibility of our provisions in the upcoming legislative activities. We also need to explore any other future movement on legislative front. Please join us in this struggle by signing up for $50 or more per month recurring contributions. This minimum amount is important for us to accomplish the kind of results we all desire. The failure of CIR and the political climate against immigration are making the task difficult but not impossible.
Monthly $50 sign ups will enable us to have a better idea on the funds for the coming months and we can plan our efforts better.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
Thanks again for your continued support.
IV team
P.S. After our success with the visa bulletin, our opponents, other organizations and people in DC know that IV has arrived. Congrats everyone.
=========================
" Kapoor says he has spent about $64,000 of his own money in the last 19 months, largely on travel to and from Washington."
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
========================
Message from Pappu:
Yes this is not a typo. This is true. Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
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bkarnik
04-26 10:15 AM
You stated dual intent immigrants. In letter and spirit.
That contradicts US Embassy provisions of H1 stamping, when you first go for the visa interview. Doesn't the US Embassy/Consulate state that you should be able to prove your intent NOT to abandon your country of origin, show you family ties, financial connections. Am I right? I can give a ton of links from US Consulate web sites with those exact words.
Now, what you are talking is dual intention: get H1B visa and get on the permanent residence highway, at the earliest opportunity.
It's OK to start with an empty kitty in SS and Medicare account, just when are about to get your Green Card than to walk back to your country losing 10 to 20 grand of your own money after 6 or 7 years. Uncle Sam should not collect SS Tax and Medicare from temporary workers. Period.
Learning01:
The intent issue is generally looked at during visa issuance, HOWEVER, please see the link from shusterman or better yet look at the USCIS link (it can't be better than this). The Consular officers never ask you your intent when you are applying for a H1/L1 visa. The intent issue is applicable only when you are applying for a F1/B1/B2 visa.... In the future, before posting anything, a little research please:)
As for the other issue, I am surprised at the vehemence...why would in not make more sense to get the money that you paid in addition to what the employer matched back when you decide to leave (or are forced to leave)? That way the US gets to use the money till you are here, but you get double the money if you leave. I would also agree with mrajatish...instead of blaming the US for everything, for once lets try to change the way our government works.
http://www.shusterman.com/di-vsa.html
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/h1b.htm
That contradicts US Embassy provisions of H1 stamping, when you first go for the visa interview. Doesn't the US Embassy/Consulate state that you should be able to prove your intent NOT to abandon your country of origin, show you family ties, financial connections. Am I right? I can give a ton of links from US Consulate web sites with those exact words.
Now, what you are talking is dual intention: get H1B visa and get on the permanent residence highway, at the earliest opportunity.
It's OK to start with an empty kitty in SS and Medicare account, just when are about to get your Green Card than to walk back to your country losing 10 to 20 grand of your own money after 6 or 7 years. Uncle Sam should not collect SS Tax and Medicare from temporary workers. Period.
Learning01:
The intent issue is generally looked at during visa issuance, HOWEVER, please see the link from shusterman or better yet look at the USCIS link (it can't be better than this). The Consular officers never ask you your intent when you are applying for a H1/L1 visa. The intent issue is applicable only when you are applying for a F1/B1/B2 visa.... In the future, before posting anything, a little research please:)
As for the other issue, I am surprised at the vehemence...why would in not make more sense to get the money that you paid in addition to what the employer matched back when you decide to leave (or are forced to leave)? That way the US gets to use the money till you are here, but you get double the money if you leave. I would also agree with mrajatish...instead of blaming the US for everything, for once lets try to change the way our government works.
http://www.shusterman.com/di-vsa.html
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/h1b.htm
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09-12 07:19 PM
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Winner
06-10 09:32 AM
IF you've not called already, the visa bulletin is probably a very good reason for you to call :
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19387
-V
Predicting and hoping that things will get better is not going to help. Lets take action. Please call the lawmakers if you have not done it already.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19387
-V
Predicting and hoping that things will get better is not going to help. Lets take action. Please call the lawmakers if you have not done it already.
bobzibub
06-11 04:04 PM
I keep reading we should fight for out rights and all. I am just curious
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
Totoro
05-02 09:25 AM
Please contact me, PM or post, if you are willing to be interviewed for a news story on this. You should be a professional in the San Jose / Bay area, although anyone in California should contact me. I will forward your information to the reporter.
On a related note, I have gone through the laws and regulations and the SSA is required to provide SSN for valid non-work purposes. I have compiled an extensive argument to support this case and I am currently in the process of getting the SSA to recognize the stimulus payment as a valid reason as required by the Social Security Act. If my petition is successful, it will set a precedent for others affected by the ITIN rule.
Also, you are not a nonresident if you live in the USA. According to one of the replies I received from the SSA.
"Under the IRC, therefore, an alien who is a nonresident for immigration purposes (i.e., not admitted for permanent residence) may be treated as a resident for tax purposes, if he meets the substantial presence test. Therefore, he could be eligible for the tax credit. However, he may not be eligible for a SSN if he wants one solely for the tax credit."
I disagree with the last sentence and I am currently beginning the appeals process. I am willing to share the regulations and laws that support my case but I am wondering how to best share this information with others who may also want to get involved.
On a related note, I have gone through the laws and regulations and the SSA is required to provide SSN for valid non-work purposes. I have compiled an extensive argument to support this case and I am currently in the process of getting the SSA to recognize the stimulus payment as a valid reason as required by the Social Security Act. If my petition is successful, it will set a precedent for others affected by the ITIN rule.
Also, you are not a nonresident if you live in the USA. According to one of the replies I received from the SSA.
"Under the IRC, therefore, an alien who is a nonresident for immigration purposes (i.e., not admitted for permanent residence) may be treated as a resident for tax purposes, if he meets the substantial presence test. Therefore, he could be eligible for the tax credit. However, he may not be eligible for a SSN if he wants one solely for the tax credit."
I disagree with the last sentence and I am currently beginning the appeals process. I am willing to share the regulations and laws that support my case but I am wondering how to best share this information with others who may also want to get involved.
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